Rattlesnake by a mile.

You can get 1241 dps and pick the damage type now.

Still has awsome tank and can run a MWD.

Sentries ruin smaller targets with ease.

Anyone still preaching other ships hasn't seen what the changes to cruise missiles on top of drone damage upgrades have done.

mach is good on paper but especially after the TE nerf and buffs to other ships it's gotten behind things like the CNR and even the regular dominix...

ROFL Seriously, tell me why I would use a mach now over the CNR or the domi?

It's got terribad range now and using barrage on anything except angels is a joke.
A domi does 850+ REAL dps to 90km+
A CNR does 900+ REAL dps to 90km+

Mach fights in falloff and at perfect skills and implants it has 8+93km range using barrage and 1001 DPS using the most expensive implants possible.

This means that when it fights at an equal 90km it does around 700 DPS with explosive ammunition ONLY whereas the other 2 can change freely between any damage type.

While you're flying around like a moron at 700m/s to get within reasonable range to the npcs I'm sitting at the warp in blapping everything

No mission requires you to fight at 90km but doesnt mean you shouldnt if you are able to.

Why would I spend 20 seconds flying towards something when I can shoot it from where I stand?

Your method of shooting triggers first is all fine and dandy, but unfortunately the rats that spawn 70, 90, 110km out dont magically appear within range after they aggro, most rats fly at under 400m/s apart from some frigates and it takes a significant amount of time for them to get within feasible range of the mach even if you're flying toward them.

Furthermore since rats don't always spawn in one nice big blob, they often spawn opposite ends of the deadspace area meaning that if you fly towards one group then you have to spend extra time flaying BACK IN THE OTHER DIRECTION to either get to the gate or the other group.

You've obviously never flown the dominix since odyssey and if you have you've been doing it wrong.

how on earth does your mach do the same damage as my domi at 70k?

Even so, given the Cruise Missile buff, the missile battleships overhaul and the Dominix re-bonusing, I would want to see completion times for the various hulls to see whether the difference is significant or not.

ok ill rephrase: go do a sansha, serpentis or guristas mission and tell me how good your completions times are when you're TDed, damped or jammed :)

I'll translate this for people who don't speak fluent moron:

"I can't find a suitable rebuttal so I will draw upon the powers of archaic internet cliches to attempt to throw off anyone reading up until this point so they cannot see how truly foolish I am"

Normal Domi is one of the best, if not the best low SP runner(other contender for this being the Raven.

3 slot tank

still havent responded on how well your mach performs on a pirate faction that actually has real ewar :)

you do understand that at 50km you ARE going to take more damage than your 3 slot shield tank will allow?

I know you're a Mach fan, but you should honestly have a look at the nonsense a TFI can pull. Seriously, it's ridiculous.

Ed: the Achilles heel is manoeuvrability, there's a /lot/ of DPS from those sentries. Although its not criminal, it's worth mentioning.

Just curious, how much pimp has to be put on the ship to be able to attain that elvel of crazyness? Caldari BS V and I still have the shield alarm go off pretty fast if I make misstakes after being told is a tanky BS.

[Dominix, mission]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Large Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Large Micro Jump Drive
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, unscripted

Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, Proton L
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, Proton L
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, Proton L
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, Proton L

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Ionic Field Projector I
Large Ancillary Current Router II


Garde II x5

812 DPS with my skills out to 86km

Just wanted to add my 2 cents,

Ive recently switched to a navy issue geddon, i absolutely love it , the dps is a solid 1.1k + and i get a good 712dps tank,

highs
7x pulse II 1x drone aug
mids :: 1x AB 1x TC 2x cap rech
lows :: 3x heat sinks / 4 hardeners / LAR
rigs ::nano pump + 2x ccc's
now i don't get the range of a NM / snake / mach, all ships ive used in the past, but it hits for 1.1k dps as mentioned ( 7 pulse & 5 sentry's is OP imo... ), at about 65km with scorch, more then you need for most missions, i have to slow-boat on a few tho ( 400ms with ab )

and your looking at 500m isk vs 1.5b isk + for ship + fittings.

imagine an abaddon with sentries = NI geddon :)

A seriously overlooked ship IMO.

If you're taking 30 seconds to kill an NPC battleship I think I'll stick with my domi.

And you're bad if you use furies for every target because they don't apply full damage for anything bigger than a cruiser.

Target painters also don't apply all the time past 45km (10 seconds of a wasted cycle)

YOU dont use sentry drones because you don't know their capabilities. They aren't just there to blap a couple of frigs, they can contribute to your dps out to 100km as well. Clearly not EVERYONE uses light and salvage drones because I am one person who does not (well I do have a flight of lights in my domi but they rarely see any use).

I'm so confused by your post

use what in a mach?

use what in a domi?

What videos?

I haven't done a guristas assault but i've done plenty of serpentis ones and I spend most of the time damped to 30km targeting range, i just set drones on aggressive and let them go ham.

ATM
Cruise Navy raven is the best

good BS i flew so far
including
navy domi
rattlesnake
Mach
vargur

those are all very good but Navy raven just better in every way.
But ultimately I believe Golem is the best if you can fly it. It does everything raven can do but better in most ways.

Since you do not back up your statement, it doesnt count.

you stil do not prove anything about how TFI kills stuff faster...........
oh wait.. you cant?


TFI dps looks only good on paper, and thats it... ok, gotta give you that, TFI can clear worlds collide and dmasel in distress faster than RNI/Golem

BUT then theres that vindi you know... which says gtfo with your TFI.

still overally you just cannot beat RNI/Golem today. Fact!

But in the end it doesnt matter much.. save you maybe 1-2 minutes tops.

cool... but totally unneeded.

lvl4 missions aint something to do while being up on your toes... it will burn everyone out so fast that they just let their account die and unsub. There are exceptions ofcourse some farm them day to day and count every second...

I've tryed almost every ship in eve (maybe not some low tier amarr lazor boats) and in general RNI or Golem are just the best at everything.

Yes you wont get that -1 minute from some mission, not even -3 at another but missioning is just easy and almost afk mode in good tanking ship.

You just don't have to deal and micromanage with everything.

and on that note imo golem does missions faster than any other ship.. less messing around with hardeners, less ammo switching.. less everything, just enter site - press F1 - leave.

Then there's something off with your battleship fits, T3s can't compete at kill speed, blitz...closer.